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Issue 29325938: Reworked and re-added the legendary JavaScript developer job ad (Closed)

Left Patch Set: Created Sept. 4, 2015, 3:42 p.m.

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3 Literally everything we do is [open source](https://hg.adblockplus.org). Anyone can contribute. If you join Eyeo, you can do it for a living. Eyeo is an equal o pportunity employer, and encourages people of all genders, ethnicities, national origins, orientations, etc., to apply.	3 Literally everything we do is [open source](https://hg.adblockplus.org). Anyone can contribute. If you join Eyeo, you can do it for a living. Eyeo is an equal o pportunity employer, and encourages people of all genders, ethnicities, national origins, orientations, etc., to apply.

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5 We are looking for an experienced developer with a solid understanding of comput er science and a focus on web technologies, in particular JavaScript.	5 We are looking for an experienced developer with a solid understanding of comput er science and a focus on web technologies, in particular JavaScript.

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7 You would work on our core adblocking code, ensuring that millions of users can block ads as effectively and efficiently as possible. You would also work on mak ing this code work across the various browser extension APIs we support. In addi tion, you could contribute to any area of our code base you're interested in, or to related open source projects such as Chromium or Firefox.	7 You would work on our core ad blocking code, ensuring that ads are blocked as ef fectively and efficiently as possible. You would also work on the Adblock Plus b rowser extensions for Firefox, Chromium and Safari, which bring this code to mil lions of users. In addition, you could contribute to any area of our code base y ou're interested in, or to related open source projects such as Chromium or Fire fox.
Sebastian Noack 2015/09/04 15:57:20 Still a little too much focused on the core, if yo Still a little too much focused on the core, if you don't plan to put another job ad for an extension developer up. Also note that our style guide tells to spell it "ad blocking" with the space now. How about: You would work on our core ad blocking code, ensuring that ads are blocked as effectively and efficiently as possible. You would as well work on the Adblock Plus browser extensions for Firefox and Chromium, which use these code and are used by millions of users. Felix Dahlke 2015/09/04 16:11:06 Sure, why not, reworked this a bit. Show quoted text On 2015/09/04 15:57:20, Sebastian Noack wrote: > Still a little too much focused on the core, if you don't plan to put another > job ad for an extension developer up. Also note that our style guide tells to > spell it "ad blocking" with the space now. How about: > > You would work on our core ad blocking code, ensuring that ads are blocked as > effectively and efficiently as possible. You would as well work on the Adblock > Plus browser extensions for Firefox and Chromium, which use these code and are > used by millions of users. > Sure, why not, reworked this a bit.
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9 Most of our developers work remotely, so can you. If you'd prefer an office envi ronment, we'll help you relocate to Cologne, or pay for a coworking space in you r vicinity.	9 Most of our developers work remotely, so can you. If you'd prefer an office envi ronment, we'll help you relocate to Cologne, or pay for a coworking space in you r vicinity.

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11 Requirements	11 What we are expecting

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13 - Strong experience with JavaScript, beyond frameworks like jQuery	13 - Strong experience with JavaScript
Sebastian Noack 2015/09/04 16:03:43 It seems that people don't get the "beyond framewo It seems that people don't get the "beyond frameworks like jQuery" part. How about changing it to something like: - Strong experience with JavaScript - Deep knowledge of the DOM, and preferable extension APIs I would adapt the Frontend Developer position as well. Felix Dahlke 2015/09/04 16:11:06 Not sure, I pretty much like the "beyond framework Show quoted text On 2015/09/04 16:03:43, Sebastian Noack wrote: > It seems that people don't get the "beyond frameworks like jQuery" part. How > about changing it to something like: > > - Strong experience with JavaScript > - Deep knowledge of the DOM, and preferable extension APIs > > I would adapt the Frontend Developer position as well. Not sure, I pretty much like the "beyond frameworks like jQuery" part, it communicates that we don't need someone who doesn't actually know their way around plain JS. We do have the extension API part below as a nice-to-have. Did we have applicants that do not know plain JS? Which frameworks where those using? Maybe we just need to say something like "beyond frameworks like jQuery and Angular" to make it clear? Sebastian Noack 2015/09/04 16:23:16 Yes, we get a lot of applications by people using Show quoted text On 2015/09/04 16:11:06, Felix Dahlke wrote: > On 2015/09/04 16:03:43, Sebastian Noack wrote: > > It seems that people don't get the "beyond frameworks like jQuery" part. How > > about changing it to something like: > > > > - Strong experience with JavaScript > > - Deep knowledge of the DOM, and preferable extension APIs > > > > I would adapt the Frontend Developer position as well. > > Not sure, I pretty much like the "beyond frameworks like jQuery" part, it > communicates that we don't need someone who doesn't actually know their way > around plain JS. We do have the extension API part below as a nice-to-have. > > Did we have applicants that do not know plain JS? Which frameworks where those > using? Maybe we just need to say something like "beyond frameworks like jQuery > and Angular" to make it clear? Yes, we get a lot of applications by people using jQuery, not knowing their way around the DOM unfortunately. I think it's either misleading or not explicit enough. What we try to say here is that people should know the JavaScript language well as well as the DOM API. Maybe we should do that more explicitly. Felix Dahlke 2015/09/04 16:34:46 Alright, it's worth a shot. Didn't add browser ext Show quoted text On 2015/09/04 16:23:16, Sebastian Noack wrote: > On 2015/09/04 16:11:06, Felix Dahlke wrote: > > On 2015/09/04 16:03:43, Sebastian Noack wrote: > > > It seems that people don't get the "beyond frameworks like jQuery" part. How > > > about changing it to something like: > > > > > > - Strong experience with JavaScript > > > - Deep knowledge of the DOM, and preferable extension APIs > > > > > > I would adapt the Frontend Developer position as well. > > > > Not sure, I pretty much like the "beyond frameworks like jQuery" part, it > > communicates that we don't need someone who doesn't actually know their way > > around plain JS. We do have the extension API part below as a nice-to-have. > > > > Did we have applicants that do not know plain JS? Which frameworks where those > > using? Maybe we just need to say something like "beyond frameworks like jQuery > > and Angular" to make it clear? > > Yes, we get a lot of applications by people using jQuery, not knowing their way > around the DOM unfortunately. I think it's either misleading or not explicit > enough. What we try to say here is that people should know the JavaScript > language well as well as the DOM API. Maybe we should do that more explicitly. Alright, it's worth a shot. Didn't add browser extensions again since it's already mentioned below, and I think it's definitely a nice-to-have. Most who joined us weren't really into those before. Also added something about modern JS APIs, which I think is quite relevant.
	14 - Deep knowledge of the DOM and modern browser APIs

14 - Solid understanding of algorithms and data structures	15 - Solid understanding of algorithms and data structures

15 - Very good knowledge of how the web works	16 - Very good knowledge of how the web works

16 - Good communication skills in English	17 - Good communication skills in English
	Sebastian Noack 2015/09/04 17:01:51 Nit: For consistence wit the other developer posti Nit: For consistence wit the other developer postions this should be "Excellent communication skills in English", or we should change the other job ads as well. Sebastian Noack 2015/09/04 17:18:03 For reference, as agreed in the review of the Pyth Show quoted text On 2015/09/04 17:01:51, Sebastian Noack wrote: > Nit: For consistence wit the other developer postions this should be "Excellent > communication skills in English", or we should change the other job ads as well. For reference, as agreed in the review of the Python position, we go with good. So still LGTM.
17 - Ability to work and learn independently	18 - Ability to work and learn independently

18 - High integrity	19 - High integrity

19 - Knowledge of browser internals would be a big plus	20 - Knowledge of browser internals would be a big plus

20 - Experience with browser extension development would be a big plus	21 - Experience with browser extension development would be a big plus

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22 When applying, please include a code sample or, preferably, references to open s ource projects you worked on.	23 When applying, please include a code sample or, preferably, references to open s ource projects you worked on.

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